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8 hours ago, NeekoVersace said:

Thanks for this. Tanong lang ulit. Why the DD build stats was different from this thread to this guide of yours?

because this thread is for DD CRIT and the other one is for dual dagger build..

 

they are almost the same aside from the stats and card combination 

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On 2/6/2020 at 10:37 PM, NeekoVersace said:

Is there any chance para sa skill tree build ng Assassin lang? I am sorry if out of topic. Bago lang kasi ako sa server.

For Daggers:

Max Left and Right Mastery.

Cloak 10 Max

Remaining skills Venom Splasher/React. 

 

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Additional Headgear to consider:

 

Deviling Hat [1]

• Slotted

• 2% ATK/MATK 

• Additional exp when defeating monsters

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Master tushy bago lng ako sa thief class. Sorry kung marami akong question sa build n nilagay mo. Nkakaaliw yung crit base dd.

 

1. 90 luk at mababa yung str nung sample build n nilagay mo pano lalakas ang damage ng crit mo kung mbaba str? Pde ba tong build na to 80 base str and 50 base luk para critical dual dagger tpos asa nlng sa luk food dlawang RT? Kc meron ako nkita yung 40 base str pero sobrang tadtad ng fuds. madugo sa bulsa ahahaha. O aasa k tlga sa fud and weapon para lumakas damage. Wla n bang damage multiplier ngaun ang str sa critdamage?

 

2. Anung mgnda alternative lefthand weapon pag wala kang pang icepick pde n b yung 2bloody2boned MG at status MG para sa woe at pvp? prang nde kc mkakapatay to ng makunat pagwla kang IP ahahah syang wla n kcng ignore def eh?

 

3. Yung vanberk card mdalas b proc neto? eto blak ko kc ilagay sa headgear.

 

4. Last question mgnda bang maglagay ng dex dto pra nde duling sa woe at pvp..pero sabi nila ignore flee din daw yung critical. Meron din ako nkita ktulad nung isa guide mo dd sinx build, dex type. pero asa lang sya sa crit weapon, crit accessories at luk fuds kaya muka syng critical dual dagger. Nde ko lng nkita damage kung mlakas hehehe

 

Thanks sa isasagot mo paps pero kung feeling mo spoonfeed yung iba question wag mo nlng sagutin salamat ulet..cheers ./no1

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On 2/17/2020 at 5:49 AM, Kimbies said:

Master tushy bago lng ako sa thief class. Sorry kung marami akong question sa build n nilagay mo. Nkakaaliw yung crit base dd.

 

1. 90 luk at mababa yung str nung sample build n nilagay mo pano lalakas ang damage ng crit mo kung mbaba str? Pde ba tong build na to 80 base str and 50 base luk para critical dual dagger tpos asa nlng sa luk food dlawang RT? Kc meron ako nkita yung 40 base str pero sobrang tadtad ng fuds. madugo sa bulsa ahahaha. O aasa k tlga sa fud and weapon para lumakas damage. Wla n bang damage multiplier ngaun ang str sa critdamage?

 

2. Anung mgnda alternative lefthand weapon pag wala kang pang icepick pde n b yung 2bloody2boned MG at status MG para sa woe at pvp? prang nde kc mkakapatay to ng makunat pagwla kang IP ahahah syang wla n kcng ignore def eh?

 

3. Yung vanberk card mdalas b proc neto? eto blak ko kc ilagay sa headgear.

 

4. Last question mgnda bang maglagay ng dex dto pra nde duling sa woe at pvp..pero sabi nila ignore flee din daw yung critical. Meron din ako nkita ktulad nung isa guide mo dd sinx build, dex type. pero asa lang sya sa crit weapon, crit accessories at luk fuds kaya muka syng critical dual dagger. Nde ko lng nkita damage kung mlakas hehehe

 

Thanks sa isasagot mo paps pero kung feeling mo spoonfeed yung iba question wag mo nlng sagutin salamat ulet..cheers ./no1

1. malakas ang damage khit low str kasi dahil sa weapon and EDP(Enchant Deadly Poison). 90 90 ang stats para ma utilize ung GAW or +5 Poring Backpack. Ang DD magastos at nasabi ko na rin yan sa unang guide na nagawa ko dito sa forum which is ung Dual Dagger SinX guide (di ko kasi ineexpect na maglalabas ng Double Attack Critical Patch).

 

2. Alternative is 2xHydra2xSkelworker for low def (thief, archer, mage class). IP for high def enemy..

 

3. For me hindi. Gamit ka nlng ng Dark Pingucula Card.

 

4. no need dex since crit ka na. ang critical ignore nya ung flee means never miss ka na. 

DD sinx ung isang guide kya Dex nkalagay para magconnect ung double attack ko. Since crit na sa LUK na nkalagay. Ang LUK is may additional HIT din. Tandaan mo rin na every level is +1 hit so depende din sa level mo. 

 

Sorry late reply di ko napansin may nag reply na dito. 🙂

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Thanks tush sa reply, kala ko mgnda sa DD crit type yung vanberk card. Muntik ko ng ilgay yung card sa AD.

Need pla tlgang mginvest ng IP kala ko kc meron pang alt na gamit khit nde gnun ka lkas ang dmage. Medyo may kmahalan ang IP. Ganun nga pang low vit lng kaya kong katayin heheheh

 

Salamat tush

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14 hours ago, Kimbies said:

Thanks tush sa reply, kala ko mgnda sa DD crit type yung vanberk card. Muntik ko ng ilgay yung card sa AD.

Need pla tlgang mginvest ng IP kala ko kc meron pang alt na gamit khit nde gnun ka lkas ang dmage. Medyo may kmahalan ang IP. Ganun nga pang low vit lng kaya kong katayin heheheh

 

Salamat tush

If meron ka na IP then kaya mo na kill yung mga HIGH VIT/DEF. Nasa diskarte din sa pag kill. Go for enemy with Kaite para 1-3 hits mo lang. 

 

Di na need ng Arta's kasi saglit mo lng ihit kalaban deads agad. More on PvM ang artas para sakin. 

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Posted (edited)

Which one has the highest DPS? DD crt or DD regular ?

Im a bit lost. Trying to do a DD in ragnarok transcendence but the server is full with DA katars.... 

 I really like daggers tho

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20 hours ago, victorr said:

Which one has the highest DPS? DD crt or DD regular ?

Im a bit lost. Trying to do a DD in ragnarok transcendence but the server is full with DA katars.... 

 I really like daggers tho

Dual Wielding SinX is the highest physical damage in the game of Ragnarok. 

 

Double Attack Critical is higher than the regular dual dagger type aka Double Daggers. 

 

Just go with the flow and what makes you happy. Just to share with you, when i started playing in Thor server. I'm the only DD assassin in the server. I made videos and my damage output is quite impressive. And when the trans job came up. then other katar users switched to daggers. 

 

at first, DD is slow but around 80 to 90+ it will be fun. 🙂

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Additional query po sir, for leveling, oks na po ba ang thief card set instead sa RT? And would the 2 RT be enough to consistently deal crit damage?

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Hi Tushy, I've been reading your topics regarding dd sinx and I'm inspired with your guides! I just have a question though since I returned 2 months and do not have idea how to have this item. I am looking for filir hat for leveling purposes however I could not find seller of this item. 

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On 5/18/2020 at 1:11 AM, Hyeyer said:

Additional query po sir, for leveling, oks na po ba ang thief card set instead sa RT? And would the 2 RT be enough to consistently deal crit damage?

Hi, use thief set for farming or levelling. 

 

You can use linen gloves for additional bonus stats from that accessory. Or use golden clip which is cheaper for atk% and hp/sp. 

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On 5/23/2020 at 6:16 PM, Madera said:

Hi Tushy, I've been reading your topics regarding dd sinx and I'm inspired with your guides! I just have a question though since I returned 2 months and do not have idea how to have this item. I am looking for filir hat for leveling purposes however I could not find seller of this item. 

What is filir hat for? 

 

Assassin cross can use pecopeco band for utility and additional ASPD. If there's any questions, please let me know. 

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On 1/12/2020 at 9:51 PM, TUSHY said:
  • Having a Katar Weapon, you can easily have perfect crit since the CRITICAL(in your stats) is doubled for Katar users. 
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for DD, this doesn't apply therefore we should aim at least 90 Crit? that's why the suggested build for DD is Agi-Luk 90-90, is that correct?

 

I've checked the calculator (the one in PRT WIKI) basic Scalpel (3 the paper) + MG (2 hydra, 2 sw), +7 PBP, 2 RT and with Buche de Noel + Abrasive = 93 Crit, without the Abrasive and Buche de Noel, 56, DD for levelling is a big no-no? due to the chance of landing critical hit unlike when wielding a Katar where it is doubled. Katar = PVM, DD = PVP?

 

I tried switching the stats as well, STR-AGI 90-90 and it has 2664 ~ 2944 damage to player. Compared with AGI-LUK's 2296 ~ 2594. The only problem is STR-AGI will have 76 Crit based on the items and foods above.

 

Also, very noob question, I've seen people sell Mobster cards higher than The Paper, is it because of the -1 sp/attack, 3 paper, -3SP/attack? another one, if you don't have any SP left, you won't be able to attack if weapon is compounded with The Paper card?

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On 2/10/2020 at 8:56 AM, NeekoVersace said:

Thanks for this. Tanong lang ulit. Why the DD build stats was different from this thread to this guide of yours?

Because that thread has the updated garment so the stats is quite different. The previous guide is for reference for an alternative equipment that has low mid and high tier items. Hope that clarifies your question. 

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On 6/14/2020 at 3:18 AM, NT4201 said:

for DD, this doesn't apply therefore we should aim at least 90 Crit? that's why the suggested build for DD is Agi-Luk 90-90, is that correct?

Yes that is correct. But again it will depend on the character items/equipment. I didn't suggest to follow or do a 90 LUK on your character.

 

On 6/14/2020 at 3:18 AM, NT4201 said:

I've checked the calculator (the one in PRT WIKI) basic Scalpel (3 the paper) + MG (2 hydra, 2 sw), +7 PBP, 2 RT and with Buche de Noel + Abrasive = 93 Crit, without the Abrasive and Buche de Noel, 56, DD for levelling is a big no-no? due to the chance of landing critical hit unlike when wielding a Katar where it is doubled. Katar = PVM, DD = PVP?

Again, it will depend on the character or the player. Katar and DD are both PvM and PvP. It will depend only on the stats.

 

With 90 crit I think that is Okay and there's no need to have a complete 100 CRIT. That's the downside of DD. You need a lot of consumables to reach the crit rate that you need. That is why DD is not that advisable for beginners because its too complicated. 

On 6/14/2020 at 3:18 AM, NT4201 said:

 

I tried switching the stats as well, STR-AGI 90-90 and it has 2664 ~ 2944 damage to player. Compared with AGI-LUK's 2296 ~ 2594. The only problem is STR-AGI will have 76 Crit based on the items and foods above.

The stats will be based on the items and equipments. I dont usually rely on the calculator. I just tested on the actual server. For me.. "to see is to believe" 

 

On 6/14/2020 at 3:18 AM, NT4201 said:

Also, very noob question, I've seen people sell Mobster cards higher than The Paper, is it because of the -1 sp/attack, 3 paper, -3SP/attack? another one, if you don't have any SP left, you won't be able to attack if weapon is compounded with The Paper card?

It is because 3x paper is not advisable. You need modifiers like Hydra and Skeleton Worker + Crit Dam modifier (The paper) to boost the damage. 3x paper build is from Ragnarok Thailand. 

 

Think of this...

Yes you have 3x paper.. 60% crit damage..

The question is where do you get the "DAMAGE" itself? Sometimes you need to balance and consider other factor. Not just by reading and follow guides. You NEED to understand them. 😊

 

Let me know if you have any concerns. 

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On 6/19/2020 at 8:17 PM, TUSHY said:

It is because 3x paper is not advisable. You need modifiers like Hydra and Skeleton Worker + Crit Dam modifier (The paper) to boost the damage. 3x paper build is from Ragnarok Thailand. 

 

Think of this...

Yes you have 3x paper.. 60% crit damage..

The question is where do you get the "DAMAGE" itself? Sometimes you need to balance and consider other factor. Not just by reading and follow guides. You NEED to understand them. 😊

Hmm... I think you misunderstood my concern on that part since I'm referring to the right hand weapon which is Scalpel (where I plan to compound 3x The Paper), not left hand (racial+size). My main concern is the SP lost and not the damage modifier since you've explained it in your guide. Other suggested card combo for the main hand are these.

 

Card for Right Hand Dagger

  • The Paper Card
  • Mobster Card

 

Scalpel (Example):

  • +10 The Paper 2x, Hydra Card Scalpel[3] - For WoE/PvP
  • +10 The Paper 2x, Mobster Card[3] - For Overall Use [Low Cost]
  • 3x The Paper Card if you're a PvM - Overall use [High Cost]

i'm mostly PvM so i'm planning to go 3x The Paper, given that the cost of Mobster card is x3 of 1 Paper Card. Left hand will be adjusted depending on which map I plan to grind/farm.

 

On 6/19/2020 at 8:17 PM, TUSHY said:

The stats will be based on the items and equipments. I dont usually rely on the calculator. I just tested on the actual server. For me.. "to see is to believe" 

 

 

I see, I use the calculator because that's the only resource I have XD 

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On 6/22/2020 at 2:50 AM, NT4201 said:

Hmm... I think you misunderstood my concern on that part since I'm referring to the right hand weapon which is Scalpel (where I plan to compound 3x The Paper), not left hand (racial+size). My main concern is the SP lost and not the damage modifier since you've explained it in your guide. Other suggested card combo for the main hand are these.

 

Card for Right Hand Dagger

  • The Paper Card
  • Mobster Card

 

Scalpel (Example):

  • +10 The Paper 2x, Hydra Card Scalpel[3] - For WoE/PvP
  • +10 The Paper 2x, Mobster Card[3] - For Overall Use [Low Cost]
  • 3x The Paper Card if you're a PvM - Overall use [High Cost]

i'm mostly PvM so i'm planning to go 3x The Paper, given that the cost of Mobster card is x3 of 1 Paper Card. Left hand will be adjusted depending on which map I plan to grind/farm.

 

 

I see, I use the calculator because that's the only resource I have XD 

I didn't misunderstood your concern. 

 

If you have paper + race + size on your right hand you have a great damage output or should I say quick kill. 

 

Quick kill = less SP loss every attack.

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4 hours ago, TUSHY said:

I didn't misunderstood your concern. 

 

If you have paper + race + size on your right hand you have a great damage output or should I say quick kill. 

 

Quick kill = less SP loss every attack.

 

oh yeah, I did the basic math. you're correct.

 

total atk (100 example) x 1.6 x 1.6 = 256 x 1.6 (1.4 from normal + .2 from 1x paper) = 409.6

 

against the my given example 100 x 1.4 x 1.4 = 196 x 2 (1.4 + .6 3x paper) = 392

 

Thank you, you've been a great help 🙂 

 

edit: added the calculation XD assuming this is correct 

  • RaceMultiplier, SizeMultiplier, TargetPropertyMultiplier, MonsterMultiplier, ATKMultiplier and PropertyMultiplier are applied to this in that particular order. (from iro wiki)
  • crit = 40% more damage (on revo classic)

 

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1 hour ago, NT4201 said:

 

oh yeah, I did the basic math. you're correct.

 

total atk (100 example) x 1.6 x 1.6 = 256 x 1.6 (1.4 from normal + .2 from 1x paper) = 409.6

 

against the my given example 100 x 1.4 x 1.4 = 196 x 2 (1.4 + .6 3x paper) = 392

 

Thank you, you've been a great help 🙂 

 

edit: added the calculation XD assuming this is correct 

  • RaceMultiplier, SizeMultiplier, TargetPropertyMultiplier, MonsterMultiplier, ATKMultiplier and PropertyMultiplier are applied to this in that particular order. (from iro wiki)
  • crit = 40% more damage (on revo classic)

 

Honestly, I dont know about the calculations. I just tested on the actual server for me to believe and to answer my questions. 

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Hi Bro, I hope you'd notice this message 😅 may question lang sana ako. I'm impressed sa damage output ng sinx mo and honestly, ikaw ay isa sa influence ko when it comes to sinx, kaso medyo frustrated ako sa dmg output ng sinx ko though I have mid-tier equips like +9 scal (2paper 1mob), +10 pvp MG, i also have +9 ip, +9 GM NRS, bsb set, rt. Tapos basic lang yung headgear ko, pphb, sigrun tapos p. dagger. Any suggestion to boost dmg? Btw my stat is 30 str 90 agi 79 vit and 58 luk (not yet level 99) thanks!

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On 7/7/2020 at 12:20 PM, Madera said:

Hi Bro, I hope you'd notice this message 😅 may question lang sana ako. I'm impressed sa damage output ng sinx mo and honestly, ikaw ay isa sa influence ko when it comes to sinx, kaso medyo frustrated ako sa dmg output ng sinx ko though I have mid-tier equips like +9 scal (2paper 1mob), +10 pvp MG, i also have +9 ip, +9 GM NRS, bsb set, rt. Tapos basic lang yung headgear ko, pphb, sigrun tapos p. dagger. Any suggestion to boost dmg? Btw my stat is 30 str 90 agi 79 vit and 58 luk (not yet level 99) thanks!

It is because of the right hand cards on scalpel. use race x type x crit dam bonus to boost more your DMG output with IP. 

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Lods any tips for budget meal equips and build? Parang pang high end na tong mga to at malayo pa ako diyan. haha.

Also, skill build para double attack crit na pang farm na den e.g magma.

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